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Grape extract

extracting grape vine due to low performance


We finally decided to give up on these grapes today.

The fruit was okay, but without spraying the yields are very low.

Spraying would be smelly, expensive, and leak into the surrounding soil, an option we never considered because we love our dirt. We instead ordered a Mars Seedless that's been growing nicely for about a year now and should be disease resistant enough for this area.



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You may find this hardy seedless grape cultivar information of value.

http://www.hort.cornell.edu/reisch/grapegenetics/bulletin/table/tabletext3.html

Comment by BSmith Fri Oct 5 17:31:04 2012
Which variety is it that didn't work?
Comment by BeninMA Fri Oct 5 18:52:16 2012

BSmith --- The grapes we're pulling out are some that we rooted from free cuttings from a friend. On the plus side, I learned how easy it is to root grapes. On the negative side, these were varieties he'd selected to grow for wine, so they weren't the best eating, and he's a chemical farmer, so they aren't disease resistant at all.

To answer your actual question, the varieties were Steuban and Golden Muskat. There was also a Concord that did okay, but it was in a bad spot (too little sun) and Mark doesn't like seedy grapes, so we took it out too. The Golden Muskats were awful --- they barely grew at all. The Steuban was in the middle --- it did produce a couple of clusters, although half the grapes were diseased, and the Concord did the best despite its bad location.

A reader is sending us some cuttings of Reliance, Marquis, and Thomcord this winter in exchange for some of our cuttings, so that plus the Mars Seedless should give us something to experiment with. All but the Thomcord are at the website you pointed me toward, so hopefully they'll handle our fungi!

Comment by anna Fri Oct 5 19:10:05 2012

Having lived in new England for the last 25 years before moving to the southwest, the smell of ripe concord grapes, which grew wild in many areas, were one of the hallmarks of autumn. Oh that aroma! They should grow here in zone 5, and I hope to get some planted next year. I'm sorry your other ones didn't work out- its hard to invest in something and have to declare it a no go.
Went to the farmers market, and walked past a booth to be stopped in my tracks by a familiar smell- sure enough, they had Concords. Yes, I bought some. Made some nice jam. My fingers are still purple from slipping off all those skins. :-)

Comment by Deb Sat Oct 6 03:37:17 2012
Deb --- I have fond childhood memories of Concords too, but ours were in sunny spots and didn't seem to get all of these fungi! One of these days, I'll teach Mark to eat grapes with seeds, but I'm always feeding him so many weird things, I don't want to go too fast. :-)
Comment by anna Sat Oct 6 08:07:35 2012
Concords are good for jelly and juice, and can make wine in a pinch. While table grapes may be the royalty of the grape vine, homemade grape juice is pretty fine.
Comment by Eric in Japan Mon Oct 8 18:03:07 2012
Eric --- That's what we were thinking when we originally planted the grapes, but it turns out that we're not really fans of any of the cooked fruit options anymore. Fresh fruit and fruit leather are really our mainstays, with a bit of applesauce (and roasted figs, of course.... :-) )
Comment by anna Mon Oct 8 19:29:36 2012

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