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The Jean Pain Method

Jean Pain methodWe dream of someday leaving the mainstream electricity grid behind and becoming energy independent.  Although solar panels or hydropower have been top of our list in the past, Jerry clued me in to the Jean Pain method --- a technique of converting wood chips into methane, heat, and compost.  We're nowhere near taking the plunge to that level of production, but maybe it would be a loftier goal than saving our pennies for solar panels?

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First, article you point to is from Reader's Digest, which is not the most tech savvy publication around, to put it mildly. I remember an article of theirs about faired recumbents (the vector, if memory serves), which was way too optimistic about the speed that an average cyclist would be able to reach in such a machine.

Second, the talk page on appropapedia about the Jean Pain article has several commenters questioning the amount of gas produced &c, and with good reason.

As you can see from a articles about anearobic digestion, a simplified reaction equation of the process creates methane and CO₂ in equal amounts of molecules. In practice biogas will contain 25-50% CO₂. So your gas burner or engine will not produce as much heat on a given flow of biogas compared to a equal flow of pure methane. Unless you filter out the CO₂ (which is presumable what the "washed through small stones in water" is about).

Unless you want a huge low-pressure gas storage balloon (imagine that being struck by lightning :-) ), you'd want to "wash" most of the CO₂ from the biogas and then compress it. You also have to take into account the amount of work needed to create the several cubic yards fo wood chips nessecary for one batch!

Biogas can also contain hydrogen sulfide (rotten eggs smell) and volatile siloxanes which can deposit SiO₂ in burners and engines. (In large installations FeCl₂ is added to prevent the formation of hydrogen sulfide.)

The sources I've found indicate that during peak production you can expect the volume of the reactor per day in methane. The production of gas is normally distributed, so the average will be significantly lower. And to get optimal gas production you need to control the temperature carefully, With a fluctuating outside temperature and essentially random removal of heat from the tank by the hot water system this seems hard to achieve. Keep in mind that you're essentially running a small chemical plant. If the tank gets too hot, the bacteria will die.

Also, the waste water from the reactor might need treatment before it is safe to release in the environment.

Comment by Roland_Smith Thu Sep 8 13:18:09 2011
I'm so glad you chimed in, Roland, because my gut reaction to this method was that it looked intriguing but was probably one of those permaculture techniques that looks a lot better on paper than in practice. The major stumbling block that kept us from trying it was getting such a huge quantity of wood chips --- I believe Jean Pain had industrial chipping equipment, which we clearly don't, and our experience with renting a wood chipper this year suggested that it was a lot of work for little reward. Interesting to hear about other potential problems from the chemistry side.
Comment by anna Thu Sep 8 15:27:47 2011

I saw a TV program about innovative techniques once. It was about a dairy farmer who collected the manure from his cows (when they were in the stables) which is then anearobically digested to produce methane which was used to generate electricity and heat for the farm. The solid residue was used as compost or extruded and moulded into biologically degradable flower pots for seedlings (you can put those plants in the soil directly in their pots and they will feed the plant.) The runoff water was treated and used as fertilizer as well for the grassy fields that feed the cows.

It seemed to me it was a smart use of resources. The farmer in question definitely thought it was worthwhile. But you probably need to be a bit of a tinkerer. He cobbled together most of his equipment from the look of it, to keep costs down.

Comment by Roland_Smith Thu Sep 8 16:06:37 2011
My understanding is that China uses these manure digesters on a lot of its farms and that they work well. (I can't remember where I read about it, though.) They definitely seem to make sense for folks who raise a lot of livestock, for whom the manure because a waste problem.
Comment by anna Fri Sep 9 13:11:52 2011

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